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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pete, and thanks for coming by!
The cultural aspect is an excellent point, and one I didn&#039;t even touch.  It&#039;s very true that the establishment of grain as a food source is what allowed society and culture to form as we now know it.
I have recently been in contact with a person who is vegetarian, and celiac.  She may also have other food intolerances which are being explored, and it does make it extremely difficult to ensure that all nutritional bases are being covered.
Thanks for the great thought provoking post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete, and thanks for coming by!<br />
The cultural aspect is an excellent point, and one I didn&#8217;t even touch.  It&#8217;s very true that the establishment of grain as a food source is what allowed society and culture to form as we now know it.<br />
I have recently been in contact with a person who is vegetarian, and celiac.  She may also have other food intolerances which are being explored, and it does make it extremely difficult to ensure that all nutritional bases are being covered.<br />
Thanks for the great thought provoking post!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bronski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Bronski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erin,

Great post about the Paleo &quot;diet.&quot;  I echo other people&#039;s comments about finding what works for you, and drawing upon aspects of different &quot;diets&quot; to customize a lifestyle that suits you.

When it comes to the Paleo diet, there are definitely some gray areas that I think warrant further thought...

For example, in today&#039;s era of more ethical eating, increasing numbers of people are opting for some form of a vegetarian or vegan diet.  What would happen if you suddenly eliminated meats from a Paleo diet, where such protein sources are a staple?

Also, I don&#039;t like how the Paleo diet vilifies all grains.  (Heck, with its emphasis on a hunter-gathered gastronomy, it seems to indict all organized agriculture, in a way.)  I think that some Paleo adherents forget the great contributions of agriculture and grains to society.  We should remember that agriculture - and the storability of both gluten-ous and gluten-free grains - enabled hunter-gatherers to settle down and form societies and civilizations.  Grains sustained people through periods of drought and winter when famine might have normally been a problem.  And a surplus of grains permitted some members of society to stop focusing on where their next meal would come from, and instead specialize in other areas (medicine, science, art, music, etc.).  As much as Paleos point the finger at health problems that have arisen over time - supposedly as a result of agriculture and grains - where would society be today culturally without those grains?

I could go on, but I&#039;ll cut myself off here. Just wanted to offer some more food for thought...

Cheers, Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erin,</p>
<p>Great post about the Paleo &#8220;diet.&#8221;  I echo other people&#8217;s comments about finding what works for you, and drawing upon aspects of different &#8220;diets&#8221; to customize a lifestyle that suits you.</p>
<p>When it comes to the Paleo diet, there are definitely some gray areas that I think warrant further thought&#8230;</p>
<p>For example, in today&#8217;s era of more ethical eating, increasing numbers of people are opting for some form of a vegetarian or vegan diet.  What would happen if you suddenly eliminated meats from a Paleo diet, where such protein sources are a staple?</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t like how the Paleo diet vilifies all grains.  (Heck, with its emphasis on a hunter-gathered gastronomy, it seems to indict all organized agriculture, in a way.)  I think that some Paleo adherents forget the great contributions of agriculture and grains to society.  We should remember that agriculture &#8211; and the storability of both gluten-ous and gluten-free grains &#8211; enabled hunter-gatherers to settle down and form societies and civilizations.  Grains sustained people through periods of drought and winter when famine might have normally been a problem.  And a surplus of grains permitted some members of society to stop focusing on where their next meal would come from, and instead specialize in other areas (medicine, science, art, music, etc.).  As much as Paleos point the finger at health problems that have arisen over time &#8211; supposedly as a result of agriculture and grains &#8211; where would society be today culturally without those grains?</p>
<p>I could go on, but I&#8217;ll cut myself off here. Just wanted to offer some more food for thought&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers, Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shirley!
So glad this piece of insight did not get left in the spam folder-that would have been horrible!
Thank you for sharing that for you, the benefit of eating in a Paleo-esque manner is the craving control as opposed to the satiety factor.  I&#039;m sure that is true for many others as well, I know for myself when I keep my diet fairly &quot;clean&quot; I also experience less cravings, but one bite of simple sugar leads to wanting more.

I think your point about feeling in control and being able to think about more than food is key.  To you, that is what works.  The idea of being exclusionary with some foods or food groups works awesomely for some as you&#039;ve experienced, and for others the fact that a certain food is &quot;forbidden&quot; makes us want it more.  Just as in all of this, there is no right or wrong, only individual preferences and experience.
I think it&#039;s absolutely NOT less evolved ;)
As you said, the cornerstones of all diets (eating patterns) should be a protein sources (meat/poultry/fish/eggs etc,) veggies, some fruit and healthy fats.  Then the rest is largely a result of genetics, activity level, preference and goals.  As Melissa says, we all have our own biochemistry.
Your last point is too key to not reiterate.  &quot;&lt;strong&gt;One just has to figure out what works and stick with it.&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;
That sums it up rather nicely :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirley!<br />
So glad this piece of insight did not get left in the spam folder-that would have been horrible!<br />
Thank you for sharing that for you, the benefit of eating in a Paleo-esque manner is the craving control as opposed to the satiety factor.  I&#8217;m sure that is true for many others as well, I know for myself when I keep my diet fairly &#8220;clean&#8221; I also experience less cravings, but one bite of simple sugar leads to wanting more.</p>
<p>I think your point about feeling in control and being able to think about more than food is key.  To you, that is what works.  The idea of being exclusionary with some foods or food groups works awesomely for some as you&#8217;ve experienced, and for others the fact that a certain food is &#8220;forbidden&#8221; makes us want it more.  Just as in all of this, there is no right or wrong, only individual preferences and experience.<br />
I think it&#8217;s absolutely NOT less evolved <img src='http://www.glutenfreefitness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
As you said, the cornerstones of all diets (eating patterns) should be a protein sources (meat/poultry/fish/eggs etc,) veggies, some fruit and healthy fats.  Then the rest is largely a result of genetics, activity level, preference and goals.  As Melissa says, we all have our own biochemistry.<br />
Your last point is too key to not reiterate.  &#8220;<strong>One just has to figure out what works and stick with it.</strong>&#8221;<br />
That sums it up rather nicely <img src='http://www.glutenfreefitness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amanda,
Too funny about the pie-o-vore! I love it :)
Yes, if people cut out pastries, ice cream, and junk they would certainly improve their health and body composition.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s necessary to completely eliminate even the decently nutritious in that category.  Maybe it is, but I&#039;ll wait for more information before I give up certain items.
And orthoexia is an interesting term, I&#039;ve seen a couple of definitions.  In some ways it doesn&#039;t seem too bad-yes, I&#039;m concerned about the quality and quantity of food I put into my body.  As always, there are extremes to everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amanda,<br />
Too funny about the pie-o-vore! I love it <img src='http://www.glutenfreefitness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yes, if people cut out pastries, ice cream, and junk they would certainly improve their health and body composition.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s necessary to completely eliminate even the decently nutritious in that category.  Maybe it is, but I&#8217;ll wait for more information before I give up certain items.<br />
And orthoexia is an interesting term, I&#8217;ve seen a couple of definitions.  In some ways it doesn&#8217;t seem too bad-yes, I&#8217;m concerned about the quality and quantity of food I put into my body.  As always, there are extremes to everything.</p>
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		<title>By: AmandaonMaui</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmandaonMaui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erin,

I don&#039;t like the exclusionary thing either. However, I can see how cutting out dairy and grains would help some people lose weight. They&#039;d be cutting out pastries, ice cream, etc. These are things that usually push over our caloric need. By cutting them out, people would be eliminating a lot of calories and might lose a few pounds.

Still, I think that legumes and grains are useful and delicious. On the nutritional level they have protein, fiber and vitamins to offer us. 

I am definitely a Frankendiet kind of gal. I however am not an orthorexic gal (great term that means I don&#039;t follow every diet and end up making myself ill while trying to make myself extremely healthy, Michael Pollan used it in &quot;In Defense of Food.&quot;) 

I am a lot Michael Pollan, a little Nourishing Traditions, and a bit of a pie-o-vore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erin,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the exclusionary thing either. However, I can see how cutting out dairy and grains would help some people lose weight. They&#8217;d be cutting out pastries, ice cream, etc. These are things that usually push over our caloric need. By cutting them out, people would be eliminating a lot of calories and might lose a few pounds.</p>
<p>Still, I think that legumes and grains are useful and delicious. On the nutritional level they have protein, fiber and vitamins to offer us. </p>
<p>I am definitely a Frankendiet kind of gal. I however am not an orthorexic gal (great term that means I don&#8217;t follow every diet and end up making myself ill while trying to make myself extremely healthy, Michael Pollan used it in &#8220;In Defense of Food.&#8221;) </p>
<p>I am a lot Michael Pollan, a little Nourishing Traditions, and a bit of a pie-o-vore.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lauren!
I remember you mentioning that your skin condition was clearing.  Glad it&#039;s helping!  Keep us posted on how you feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lauren!<br />
I remember you mentioning that your skin condition was clearing.  Glad it&#8217;s helping!  Keep us posted on how you feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James and thanks for stopping by!
I am very appreciative of the time and effort put into your research and writing, then sharing it with us.  I have learned, and will continue to learn from your writing.  My goal is to continually reevaluate my own opinions and positions based on new information, and you provide both a great source of information and a positive role model in flexibility of thought.
Phew! That was a mouthful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James and thanks for stopping by!<br />
I am very appreciative of the time and effort put into your research and writing, then sharing it with us.  I have learned, and will continue to learn from your writing.  My goal is to continually reevaluate my own opinions and positions based on new information, and you provide both a great source of information and a positive role model in flexibility of thought.<br />
Phew! That was a mouthful!</p>
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		<title>By: The Celiac DIva</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Celiac DIva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! 

I&#039;m 99% the headaches and rashes I can&#039;t rid are due to grains. Pretty wild. I&#039;m in the challenging/testing period of this. I feel soooo much better eating a flexible paleo diet. 

Keep up the amazing work!
Lauren Lucille</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m 99% the headaches and rashes I can&#8217;t rid are due to grains. Pretty wild. I&#8217;m in the challenging/testing period of this. I feel soooo much better eating a flexible paleo diet. </p>
<p>Keep up the amazing work!<br />
Lauren Lucille</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Melissa!
Yes, I&#039;ve heard Dr Cordain speak and read some of his writings.  Fascinating for sure, interesting, and a bit overly extreme for me.  I&#039;ve also heard the lectin theory.  Baby steps I think, at first.
We need to come up with a new word for &quot;diet,&quot; something fun, swamp-juice esque ;)
And yes-biochemically unique is a great way to put it.  Different genetics, different activity levels, different environmental factors, all play a part.
Learn and individualize!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melissa!<br />
Yes, I&#8217;ve heard Dr Cordain speak and read some of his writings.  Fascinating for sure, interesting, and a bit overly extreme for me.  I&#8217;ve also heard the lectin theory.  Baby steps I think, at first.<br />
We need to come up with a new word for &#8220;diet,&#8221; something fun, swamp-juice esque <img src='http://www.glutenfreefitness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And yes-biochemically unique is a great way to put it.  Different genetics, different activity levels, different environmental factors, all play a part.<br />
Learn and individualize!</p>
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		<title>By: gfe--gluten free easily</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfe--gluten free easily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankenstein diet. Ha ha. But, let&#039;s run with this for a minute. Frankenstein, or more correctly, Frankenstein&#039;s monster, was so misunderstood. If you read the original book which I did when I was getting my English degree, you&#039;ll learn that Frankenstein&#039;s creation (who is often called Frankenstein mistakely; Victor Frankenstein was his creator) started out being a good guy. However, he was rejected again and again when he tried to make friends because he was so ugly and scary looking, so he eventually he became a monster from that rejection. 

In our discussion, the other day I shared that the paleo diet with certain foods being removed &lt;b&gt;stops my cravings&lt;/b&gt;. In fact, it stops them cold. I can suddenly focus on so much more than food. It&#039;s not at all about feeling more full IMO. When I eat the non-paleo foods, I become the monster, slowly but surely ... wanting more and more, and feeling completely out of control. I love the idea of eating a little bit of this and that and not excluding foods (as I struggle with excluding them), but I don&#039;t like becoming the &quot;monster&quot; when I eat them.  

So truly, for some folks, the paleo diet is the way to go. Are those folks/me less evolved than some of our friends/other humans? Maybe. ;-) I do totally agree that figuring out what works for each individual is the answer and we see it all the time on blogs, in articles, etc. I just read a blog post on a woman who lost about 50 lbs just by adding healthy fats to each meal. She did nothing else differently, but the addition of healthy fats made her feel full, hence naturally stopping her from eating more food, and worked for her weight loss. her story supports your satiety thinking. I believe meat, fish, fruit, veggies, and healthy fats are the best things we can be eating. When I add in grains (even gf ones), dairy, and sugar, personally I have issues. Others can do great with them and eat them in moderation. One just has to figure out what works and stick with it. (Repeating this last sentence to myself over and over!)

Great discussion post, Erin!

Shirley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankenstein diet. Ha ha. But, let&#8217;s run with this for a minute. Frankenstein, or more correctly, Frankenstein&#8217;s monster, was so misunderstood. If you read the original book which I did when I was getting my English degree, you&#8217;ll learn that Frankenstein&#8217;s creation (who is often called Frankenstein mistakely; Victor Frankenstein was his creator) started out being a good guy. However, he was rejected again and again when he tried to make friends because he was so ugly and scary looking, so he eventually he became a monster from that rejection. </p>
<p>In our discussion, the other day I shared that the paleo diet with certain foods being removed <b>stops my cravings</b>. In fact, it stops them cold. I can suddenly focus on so much more than food. It&#8217;s not at all about feeling more full IMO. When I eat the non-paleo foods, I become the monster, slowly but surely &#8230; wanting more and more, and feeling completely out of control. I love the idea of eating a little bit of this and that and not excluding foods (as I struggle with excluding them), but I don&#8217;t like becoming the &#8220;monster&#8221; when I eat them.  </p>
<p>So truly, for some folks, the paleo diet is the way to go. Are those folks/me less evolved than some of our friends/other humans? Maybe. <img src='http://www.glutenfreefitness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I do totally agree that figuring out what works for each individual is the answer and we see it all the time on blogs, in articles, etc. I just read a blog post on a woman who lost about 50 lbs just by adding healthy fats to each meal. She did nothing else differently, but the addition of healthy fats made her feel full, hence naturally stopping her from eating more food, and worked for her weight loss. her story supports your satiety thinking. I believe meat, fish, fruit, veggies, and healthy fats are the best things we can be eating. When I add in grains (even gf ones), dairy, and sugar, personally I have issues. Others can do great with them and eat them in moderation. One just has to figure out what works and stick with it. (Repeating this last sentence to myself over and over!)</p>
<p>Great discussion post, Erin!</p>
<p>Shirley</p>
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